HD CARBON FLUOROCARBON

Double Your Invisibility with Yo-Zuri HD Fluorocarbon Disappearing Pink. Yo-Zuri HD Carbon is a brand new fluorocarbon leader that maximizes the advantages of fluorocarbon and a Disappearing Pink tint. Fluorocarbon is virtually invisible in the water and red is the first color to disappear in the water column. Pink is the lightest shade of red and as a result disappears the quickest. Fluorocarbon is also only invisible until it gets nicked or scraped up. If this happens, that section of the leader actually lights up from the sunlight. The color pink added to the line helps reduce this problem keeping an anglers invisibility intact. Ultimately the combination of fluorocarbon and the color pink will double your invisibility advantage and increase your chance for hookups!

What will the marketing folks think up next...but the color spectrum being what it is in the water column just maybe this stuff is right on the color? All I know is that on the RP last trip to the Hurricane Bank some heavy fish were hooked on this stuff.

Any comments?

To me it's intuitively illogical to take something that is theoretically invisible and then apply a tint. So, I'm more inclined to go Seaguar or Blackwater for what I use. But, Yo-Zuri and Stren did come out with the tint, and we had some client inquiry. So, I brought in the Stren since it offers more yardage/$ and also had a smoke FL.

The panga jockies in Costa Rica will pe your friend for life if you give them a new spool of Ande pink. Why is this?
In C/R they have ALOT of blue water and very few overcast days.

On a bright sunny day pink line is the way to go due to light refraction.

If the water is green I will go to the smoke.

If the skys are overcast clear or smoke is the way to go.

Your line should be like your rod and reels a given setup for each condition. Pink is a good thing but not the only thing. Carry some of everything and find what works on a given day. The fish change and being able to make the change will put the odds in your favor.

Pappy,

good info and thanks.

MS,

The clue on the pink tint is the reference to fluorocaron lighting up if scratched or scruffed. "Fluorocarbon is also only invisible until it gets nicked or scraped up. If this happens, that section of the leader actually lights up from the sunlight."

After one round of a cow...how can the fluorocaron not have some daylight?

This is all way techno stuff but the devil is in the details as Pappy pointed out...some days the sun shines and others its cloudly. change up the rig and catch a fish.

First off lets consider some facts. Contrary to Mega Media fishing line propaganda, Fluorocarbon is NOT invisible underwater. It is just LESS visible than mono. Water has a Refractive Index of 1.33 , mono is 1.52 - 1.63, Fluorocarbon is 1.42. In order for Fluoro to be " Invisible " it would have to match the Refractive Index of water , which it does NOT. Does it help, YES. Do I use it, yes, all the time.

Pink line: Red or in this case a degree of red, pink, is the first color to be absorbed under water. The color Red does not "DISSAPEAR" it becomes black which as you know is the absense of all color. So in reality pink line would turn a light gray after the RED (pink) component is absorbed. I am not a big fan of tinted fluoro unless I am using a vary long fluoro leader, say 30 yards. In that case I will use a light gray or light blue tint fluoro, the purpose of which is to minimize the light piping. Light Piping is light traveling down the line from the surface. Its the same principal as FIBER OPTICS only on a much less efficient scale. Your line will light up like a light saber under water on a braight day. I have seen this first hand. One advantage of using any type of tied on leader is that the light transfer down the line is stopped at the joining knot between the mono and the fluoro. This may a contributing factor of fluoro usage that is never considered. And as a thought of speculation, may be WHY fluorocarbon is percieved as being so effective.

Is Pink line better? Bottom line is I do not know if it is an advantage, but I do know it does not seem to be a disadvantage. Have been on boats with mates using it and have not noticed any difference in their catch rate. It did not seem to hurt. It did not seem to help.

As always, my opinion for your consideration.
Walt

Capt. Walt,

Your post is most thought provoking and very convincing, to me. I had never really considered why FC may or may not be visible. Good mixture of "Science" and "Fishing", I'd say!

Walt...

We are into the realm of Rocket Science stuff here now bro.

Light, water, absorption, spectrum and density all fit into a complex formula that when formulated equals...what did you just explain to me...he

Good scientific explanation worthy of note and inclusion in Backwaters next add. or may be Yozuri

I am impressed

Sure, they will include usable information in their Line Advertising. And Elephants will eventually fly too. Refractive Index, Light Piping, Color Absorbtion Effects or anything else that might cast the light of truth on what they are trying to get you to buy will be conspicuously absent from information they what you to know. The most blatant misinformation is the line rating on spools of line. A line can be underated by as much as 50%. Unless specifically stated, IGFA rated, the pound test rating on the spool of line you buy is an outrigt misrepersentation. Try and nail one of these line reps down at a seminar and the tales they spin make Spider Man seem real.

What ever happened to "Truth, Justice and the American way". Quoted from Clark Kent ......

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Really, pink Yo Zury is not a pink or red. It has a MAGENTA color and according Walt's chart it has a minimal Absorption coefficient and maximum visibility.

Wow, bringing up an old one...and as time passes still a valid topic. For what it's worth, I'm fishing a lot of the AFW Hi Seas uattro - multi-colored FL line. If I want pink, it's there, as are three other colors and clear in faint tints. Gets bit well and costs less than Seaguar. Blackwater has gone away for all intents and purposes, and much has changed since 2007 when Bruce originally brought up the topic and Walt added much to it. FL lines do indeed help during those times when the fish are skittish. It's about time for another FL line comparison between manufacturers, so with a bit of time I'll do just that next week. Will post on the board once done. Some new players to test.

We look forward to your test results with bated (NOT baited) breath.

Here goes:

I can't post the table here, format won't work on the board, but I posted a summary of results on the Leader Material page in the line section of our site. http://www.charkbait.com/cs/cshleader.htm

Bottom line:
YoZuri - tested well in terms of break strength, but the diameters are rather high. Not much stretch. This line did not show great improvement from previous testing.

Seaguar Premier and Blue label, both tested fine as expected. Diameter of the Premier was less than Blue Label and it's breaking test lower. Stretch was minimally better on the Premier. Could simply be a function of diameters, difference in stretch between Premier and Blue Label is about 10%, and that's not too far off the difference in breaking strength.

Hi Seas Quattro showed a lot of improvement since I first tested the line. It's been my go-to for the past four years, price and effectiveness influence my personal choice. 2nd highest stretch of the lines tested. Very good value in terms of price per yard.

Momoi - Good test results for Momoi's line, good strength, good stretch. 2nd best breaking strength. Diameters in the middle of the pack. Very good value in terms of yardage for the price.

Sunline - tested well, highest stretch, good diameter numbers, hard finish to the line - may prove excellent in terms of abrasion. Excellent value in terms of price per yard.

For whatever it's worth, I fish the Quattro more than any other FL line for anything under 80# test. I'll continue to do so, I like the tinting process they use and I like the price. I will be using some of the Sunline on a couple reels I use primarily for bait fishing, where I go straight braid to FL.

All testing was done on 50# line, all spools taken off the shelf at the shop 8/24. The machine I use for testing runs about $3500, the one I want runs 10K... It's a manual crank machine, isn't perfect. Variables partially controlled by multiple tests - minimum four times, tossing out high and low and averaging the other two.

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